"our perception of reality has more to do with what is going on in here (our brain) than what's going on out there (in the world).".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03g221y.
is it a dark square or a light square?
I Millie210 (Q) " So is this thread about perspective?
The Rebel (A) This is where I hope Slim, I and everyone agree:-
" The most important thing in communication is hearing what is said. The art of reading between the lines is a long quest of the wise" Shannon L Alder.
The Rebel.
how honest are the proponents of evolution?
idk but curious to see what type of response there is on a topic like this or does their study only seek to confirm their preconceptions and ignore uncomfortable facts?
Shadow (Q )" What are the biggest holes in evolution?
The Rebel, a poster on a previous thread made this observation " evolution is just a theory". But In my opinion " The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection" is the best explanation for my existence.
Anyway tthe " O.P" "What are the biggest holes in evolution? is an important question, and I guess a theory is not a fact. However I also believe this theory has been tested and scrutinised for over 150 years, and is supported by all relevant observations. However a theory is never promoted to a law and some may argue God has provided the Bible to understand his factual account of creation and " Darwins theory of evolution" is just an attempt to undermine those facts.
Therefore I believe for many Christians one of the " biggest holes in evolution" is the bible and its creation account . I belive these are the reasons many Christians refuse to accept the theoris of science and scientists who reveal condtadictory truths.
So in conclusion " The theory of evolution" owes its existence to the unflinching hard work of dedicated and often courageous scientists. But in my opinion some may still doubt those findings,or the accuracy of their testimony, even when they come with impeccable references. For example many a Christian would say God and the bible are the only impeccable reference.
Slimboyfat (Q) " Has anybody asked a dolphin his view of the world?
The Rebel.
1. Why do you ask?
2. Is the Dolphins view of the world supported by science?
The Rebel.
"our perception of reality has more to do with what is going on in here (our brain) than what's going on out there (in the world).".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03g221y.
is it a dark square or a light square?
Slimboyfat " Proof the earth can be flat"
The Rebel. It says a lot about Slimboyfat, that he has attempted to support his opinions calmly and I apologise if my last post appeared a little insulting.
I do however find this thread fascinating partly because :-
A) as a former Jehovers Witness I am now angered and trying to understand my former stupidity and ignorance, and inability to not understand I was talking and believed utter noncence.
B) there is a growing social moverment that seem to believe the earth is flat.
Anyway my witness exsperience has taught me to try and think for myself and my conclusion is:-.
1) If the earth is flat I would have assumed we would have been able to have reached the edge?
2) Whilst I don't believe the earth is flat, I must confess I have not given thought to it being upside down, or maybe its simply inside out, so please look out for my new O.P "proof the earth is upside down, and inside out" :-)
The Rebel.
"our perception of reality has more to do with what is going on in here (our brain) than what's going on out there (in the world).".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03g221y.
is it a dark square or a light square?
Stan livedeath interesting reply.
The Rebel (A) I believe the fact is most of us are Watsons and don't smoke a pipe and play a violin (lol) nor do most of us come to these Sherlock Holmes conclusions " When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains however improbable must be the truth.
So, ok let's get real to the facts. I believe most of us can be Watson and cry " Excellent" to such noncence whilst those that we follow say " Elementary".
So here is some more Sherlock Holmes " It is a capital mistake to theorise in advance of the facts and the insensible one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts"
In this case do we like Watson say " Excellent" or do we go further and search for proof these facts presented by Sherlock are really facts.
The Rebel.
"our perception of reality has more to do with what is going on in here (our brain) than what's going on out there (in the world).".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03g221y.
is it a dark square or a light square?
LoveUnHateExams " Not this crap again"
Thr Rebel:- LOL , but at least Slimboyfat is sincere and presents reasons why we should believe his point of view. My questions are therefore directed at Slim:-
A) Do you honestly expect people to belive " The Earth is Flat?
B) "Do you know where babies come from?
Slim my above questions are not cynicle, just trying to understand your sincere point of view and I believe :-
A) if you are sure you know where babies come from then you should be equally sure the earth is not flat.
B) If you can offer proof the earth is flat then you are one of the world greatest minds.
C) Assuming you are one of the worlds greatest minds, I think until you can offer conclusive proof the earth is flat, your thoughts are best shared over a drink than by playing ping pong with such thoughts on an ex J.W discussion forum.
Anyway in conclusion I believe I am over my J.W exsperience and the only reason I remain a member of this forum is that it has so many interesting thinkers, and decent human beings. Slim you fit into both those categories.
The Rebel.
l have observed the types of people attracted to the sect are many times unbalanced,unstable,emotionally insecure types.the jdubs seem to home in like vulchers circling the prey ,preying on the vulnerables.they tried it on me when my father who was an elder died.promising that if you become a dub you will one day see him again.l said how can you promise that when you keep making false misleading predictions.l was wondering if others have observed this phenomenon.
atomant (Q) " Types attracted to the sect known as Jehovers Witness"
The Rebel (A) We shouldn't overlook the attraction of someone going to a great deal of trouble coming to "your "door each week to reach you with the " truth"
I mention the above because that's when the " brain washing begins".
Ovbiously it's easier to "prey" on those not in full time employment,but instead those at home during the week. The relationship between study conductor and " bible" student then has to be a strong one, and progress until an invitation to a non-threatening event ( meeting at the K.H) is agreed.
Now the " love-bombing" takes effect, ect ect.
Having progressed to this stage it's time to introduce the negatives as the "bible study" is exspected to ask less difficult questions and accept the absurd, whilst attending more " non-threatening" events. If the " bible student" does not do this they are made to feel guilty and unworthy of association.
So I believe the only way a person can be converted from the door to door ministry is:-
A) If the Jehovers Witness can target a recruit generally looking for a purpose in their life.
B) If the Jehovers Witness is able to "sincerely" befriend the new recruit and gently lead them through the process of " brain washing" one step at a time, over many months.
C) And those that stay and advance in the organisation do so because they have generally developed a sence of superiority.
D) Rational thinking has little to do with any of of this.
The Rebel
'granular' seems to be the latest buzz word going around my office.
previously it was 'appetite'.. abstract words that appear to be designed to make the person saying it appear powerful and part of the 'team'.. as lord sugar has observed before; why not just speak english and say what you mean.. office jargon really annoys me.
i had enough loaded language and jargon in the disgusting jw cult..
Well Punk at least office jargon has been " taken to the next level" from when female staff were referred to as " birds" " she's fit" or " bunny". Those were the days when " Be there or be square" "and " feel the funk" were at least " buzz" words I could understand the meaning of. Nowadays I find myself having to desifer the meaning to "buzz" words such as " square the circle" which I think is supposed to sound clever, but actually I have no idea what the guy is saying.
Anyway I must get back to my " strategic staircase" which I think means continue on my business plan. So I won't let " the grass grow to long" with this post " may the force be with you" and I hope we can " touch base latter"
The Rebel.
"our perception of reality has more to do with what is going on in here (our brain) than what's going on out there (in the world).".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03g221y.
is it a dark square or a light square?
Cofty " Bollocks"
Slimboy" fact" " That's one way of putting it"
The Rebel, " I am not sure if " Bollocks" is in the Queens English, but " Bollocks" are difficult to receive, but this is the criteria for receiving one of Coftys " Bollocks"
Cofty explaining why I received the honour in a former post. " Occasionally an assertion appears on the forum that is so egregious that it really doesn't deserve the time and energy to refute it. At these times " Bollocks" is the appropriate response. I suspect 4 or 5 people have been granted a " Bollocks" to date"
The Rebel. I would suggest if or when you have received a " Bollocks" from Cofty we list them in a Magnificent Limited Addition Book, called " Bollocks" It would look great on the mantle piece and serve as a reminder we should think before we post.
My " Bollocks" we're received for:-
A) "The opposite of knowlege is love"
B) " A thought is not thinking"
Slimboyfats "Bollocks " was received for this gem " Proof the earth can be flat"
Remember these " Bollocks" can be received absolutely free and the compiled book will be of great value to Members of the Governing Body, for further use in Watchtower study articles.
The Rebel.
exploring the human genome is like roaming around an historic town.
some places are pristine and obviously still in everyday use.
others have been unused for a while and starting to show signs of decay and if you look carefully there are relics of buildings that were abandoned long ago.. in this post we are going to look at a gene that we still carry in every cell in our body but which fell into disuse 10s of millions of years ago.. humans are placental mammals.
Well we are now on Coftys series " Evolution is a fact" pt 7, and I I have contacted the Jehovers Witness London Headquarters in Edgware for a responce and submit the reply:-
Dear Apostate Cofty , thank you for your thoughts on Evolution, please understand we want you to be our friend, but the bible is our only authority in addition let us look at a scripture for proof evolution is wrong " in the beginning God Created the earth". And that is proof enough for us.
Therefore dear Apostate your posts on Evolution have a luck of scriptural support to support your thinking,. This is clarified because as keen bible students we only use reference supported from the bible.Therefore with what " little time remains before the end of this system" we suggest you repent and accept that Jehover is in fall control.
Please accept our warm Christan love and best wishes, with one final thought EVOLTION is an EVIL-ILLUSION.
Sadly I once believed that bullshit.
The Rebel.
my friend tells me he gets sick of silly questions.
i tell him its part of the assimilation process.
https://www.facebook.com/buzzfeedvideo/videos/1908211825986357/?fref=nf.
fulltimestudent, that was a fun video, and may I say I think it great that such sketches in the year 2016, no longer display Gay men as puny neurotic and with vulnability.
On a serious note I grew up on films such as Buthch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, ( Paul Newman, Robert Redford) which I now view as films about men who secretly were in love with each other, and incapable of committing to a woman. So joking aside I think your video crashed that bogus superficiality of sexuality, and the cold calculating images I once worshipped such as Bronson in death wish or Eastwood in Dirty Harry. Anyway I now see these portrays of masculinity as shallow and damaging to modern society and a persons sexuality.
Sorry if my post subtracted from the good humor intended with the thread but I really think real male images of masculinity presented in films by Al Pacinos homosexual portrayal of Sonny in Dog Day afternoon, or entertainers like Elton John, and David Bowies courage to be honest about their sexuality has helped change our culture and give liberation to people so they can come out as gay.
Once again sorry about the serious post, but threads like yours, I hope help people like me accept my former prejudice was wrong and what I was taught by an organistion was wrong and many of the films I watched were wrong in there portrayal of what makes a man.
The Rebel
